25 Responses

1. JohnnyMidnight1

   2010 Aug 21 1

   @staticnrg9 oh, congratulations!!! but anyway… I guess the analogy I’ve got stuck in my head is a big ol’ oversized Cushing’s Syndrome V8/V10 SUV being able to travel 100 miles per gallon… It’s just not physically possible, or at least it just doesn’t make sense… I’m not denying the existence of Cushing’s, I’m just trying to understand the mechanics of it… So I’m guessing the excess Cortisol must nullify or reduce critical body functions to compensate for it’s caloric overefficiency?

2. staticnrg9

   2010 Aug 21 2

   @JohnnyMidnight1 THat’s just the thing, Johnny…. BMR for a “Cushie” isn’t normal. It’s an endocrine issue. The endocrine system is what regulates metabolism. High cortisol wreaks havoc on this system. As a sidenote: I had a bilateral adrenalectomy to treat my Cushing’s 6 weeks ago. Without trying, I have lost 22 pounds since then.

3. staticnrg9

   2010 Aug 21 3

   @JohnnyMidnight1 THat’s just the thing, Johnny…. BMR for a “Cushie” isn’t normal. It’s an endocrine issue. The endocrine system is what regulates metabolism. High cortisol wreaks havoc on this system. As a sidenote: I had a bilateral adrenalectomy to treat my Cushing’s 6 weeks ago. Without trying, I have lost 22 pounds since then.

4. JohnnyMidnight1

   2010 Aug 21 4

   @staticnrg9 but… when looking at it from a thermodynamic standpoint, if the BMR (basal metabolic rate) of a person happens to be around 2000 (arbitrarily), and they consume a diet of 1200 kcal/day, how is it feasible from a physical standpoint for the person with Cushing’s to gain weight despite this caloric deficit? Kilojoules in =/= Kilojoules out apparently

5. andretheking86

   2010 Aug 21 5

   @m0a0t7rix have you read anything that i posted? or did you just assume that i think people with cushings disease (or any other hormonal disease in that case) are fat because they over eat? im guessing it is the second one .. my advice, read what the person actually said, and not what other people thought i said before you try and call me ignorant

6. vikki536

   2010 Aug 21 6

   she is beautiful~

7. LisaMarie53183

   2010 Aug 21 7

   @readergirl84 I second that… I was just diagnosed today… I’ve put on 120 pounds in 10 years, and I workout and eat relatively healthy. I’m so happy I have a diagnosis, and I can’t wait to get it fixed!!

8. Russellt0228

   2010 Aug 21 8

   @staticnrg9 bull poop. there is no way that is true considering that more muscles prevent osteoporosis. you are thinking about Olympians my friend. walking/running and of course weight lifting helps your body

9. m0a0t7rix

   2010 Aug 21 9

   i’m sorry but andretheking is totally ignorant. let me educate you.

   yes, normal people with normal metabolism can remain a healthy weight if they act correctly. HOWEVER those who are MISSING hormones or OVERPRODUCING hormones needed for METABOLISM (the thing that makes you lose or gain weight when u eat/don’t eat & exercise/don’t exercise) CAN’T!

   When you have Cushing’s you can be a size 1, work out religiously for an excessive amount of time and GAIN 100s of #s on a normal calorie diet.

10. 856893tfr

    2010 Aug 21 10

    @andretheking86
    even so though, you proved to be a level headed guy so i have nothing against you (anymore that is, at first yeah, i thought you were trolling). i think that we can keep talking in circles and never get anywhere. agree to disagree like i say. im not gonna say “end of discussion” (thats pretty cowardly), but i can see this convo wont get us anywhere.

11. 856893tfr

    2010 Aug 21 11

    @andretheking86
    once a month workout you say? no dont put words in my mouth. ive been around people in the gym who just cant lose weight and they workout harder than me. survival mode lasts a long time….. and sadly it can come about because of a 500 calorie deficit. your body doesnt like any kind of change in your system. where i got the last bit of info? from my health teacher at college. i want to be a specialist in peoples metabolisms, so i hang around with people in related fields

12. andretheking86

    2010 Aug 21 12

    @856893tfr and where did you get that last bit of info?

    at the end of the day, it goes back to the same basic principal, if you eat less, eat healthy and exercise more, on a consistant basis, you will lose weight, and if you do the opposite, than you will gain weight .. period .. your body can’t go on survival mode for long brah .. thats why its survival mode, because the body is doing whatever it takes to stay alive for the next day, so after a while your body has no choice but to lose weight

13. andretheking86

    2010 Aug 21 13

    @856893tfr that survival mode thing you’re talking about is true for a very short period of time .. and thats only if you go from eating like 3K calories a day to eating like a cup of yogurt all day, if you eat like 6 or 7 small healthy meals that add up to a caloric defficit when you work out and stick with it, you will lose weight .. idc how skinny you are, if you stuff down burgers and sit on your couch all day, after a while you will start to get fat

14. andretheking86

    2010 Aug 21 14

    @856893tfr lmao, thats why so many people are fat in this country, they expect to lose weight after working out like once a month, if you work out like 3-5 times a week and you eat healthy food full of all the nutrients you need, you will lose weight/get in shape .. and im not over simplifying it, it really is that simple .. the hard part is sticking to the meals/excercize, everyone wants to look good, but nobody wants to put down the ice cream and work out

15. 856893tfr

    2010 Aug 21 15

    @andretheking86
    in todays world, generally speaking, most everyones hormones are out of tune with what nature wanted the hormones to be. its not the calories that matter as much as your body’s processes. you dont necessarily need to have a disease or a disorder to have your hormones out of balance. most people have a couple hormones out of whack, so not enough to be a full blown disorder, but enough to hinder weight loss goals.

16. 856893tfr

    2010 Aug 21 16

    @andretheking86
    and its been proven that with consuming less calories than you burn, your body can actually end up in survival mode. it thinks “oh this guy is not gonna give me enough energy, so ill store fat for later” and youd find a lot of skinny dudes are actually overeating because they wanna gain a bit of weight, but they cant gain. most fat people dont want to be fat. so dont give me the basic freshman health class discourse.

17. 856893tfr

    2010 Aug 21 17

    @andretheking86
    ill put my money that the average human wont lose a pound with exercise. you actually burn very little calories with exercise. the most your body will allow to be burned in one session is about 700 calories. 3500 cals make a pound. add to that hormones and the environment we live in, genetics, etc, it is not that simple. at first i bashed you because i thought you were heartless. now im bashing you because you oversimplify things.

18. 856893tfr

    2010 Aug 21 18

    @andretheking86
    who is to say a meal is balanced you asked? just put it simply…..its whatever the doctors say will be healthy in the diet plan sheet they give you………….. like i said its not just the math. if it were so, everyone that went on a diet would get leaner. hormones count too. if you have high levels of insulin or cortisol or in women, very high levels of testosterone, then yeah its not just the math that counts.

19. andretheking86

    2010 Aug 21 19

    @856893tfr who is to say a meal is balanced? everyone’s “balance” is different .. and i will put money on it, that if you took the average human and made him/her burn more calories than he/she takes in than they will lose weight .. and if they take in more than he/she burns they will gain weight .. idk why so many people want to go after me trying to say im wrong, its simple 1st grade math …..

20. andretheking86

    2010 Aug 21 20

    @856893tfr (sigh) AGAIN, im not bashing anyone who has any kind of disorder, but lets be honest here, out of the countless people who are overweight/obese, do you really think any more than like 3% has some crazy rare disorder like the one in the video? and everyone knows a disease like that isn’t common and that is why theres like a discovery channel special on it because its so rare .. everyone else just consumes more than they burn off .. and yes it is that simple

21. 856893tfr

    2010 Aug 21 21

    @andretheking86
    reading many other posts you posted, youre only half right about this issue. even a balanced diet and with consistent exercise, some just cant lose. others like my neighbor, for example, eat like horses and they dont gain weight at all. exercise and diet indeed is the ONLY answer in a healthy person, that is, in someone whose hormones are at the quantities nature wanted them to be. in todays world, you dont find many people like that anymore.

22. 856893tfr

    2010 Aug 22 22

    @andretheking86
    you just dont know what a lot of people are going through. like the owner of this video told you, a lot of people with endocrine disorders dont get diagnosed correctly. it is possible to eat right and exercise and still gain weight like crazy. you could actually end up gaining MORE weight through exercise because exercise temporarily heightens cortisol levels. its not as easy as you think it is.

23. suicideclub

    2010 Aug 22 23

    these people are genetically programmed to be fat without eating food. they’re fucking immortal.

    enjoy your buffalo hump

24. andretheking86

    2010 Aug 22 24

    @Sogwa lol, idk why you’re mad right now, have you read any of my comments? i agree with you for the most part .. if you have a disease that wasn’t caused from personal choices (like smoking, eating too much junk food, drinking too much etc) than you can’t do anything about it, its not their fault .. but for those who willingly over eat, chain smoke, drink their brains out etc, i show no sympathy for them b/c it was their choice not to be healthy and they should have expected whats coming

25. Sogwa

    2010 Aug 22 25

    (pt. 2)

    ……………Just like a crippled can’t simply get up and run. Or a deaf person can’t simply clean their ears 2 hear properly.

    If someone is fat because they are lazy & overeat from depression or being a couch potato then simply turning the TV off & getting off their but will work.

    If they are fat despite how much they exercise, walk, & eat healthy as this lady did (& I constantly do) then obviously won’t work! Something else obviously is wrong.